Episode 2 – Ancient Rome Refocused

Title – "Time Travel is Easy, History is Hard."
A look at the difficulties of living in 51 B.C.

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  • Julie D. · May 20, 2010 · 6:21 am

    What a great episode. The excerpt you read, as well as your overall commentary, put me in mind of a book called Household Gods by Judith Tarr and Harry Turtledove. A whining, immature woman is sent back to 2nd century Carnuntum, on the frontier Roman Empire by some household gods who miss the olden days. She learns the realities of ancient life in a hurry. I found the protagonist to be largely unsympathetic but the realities described, as seen through modern eyes, made the book compelling reading.

  • rwmg · July 25, 2010 · 10:06 pm

    Did I hear you say the Carthaginians sacked Corinth? What is your source for this? I know the Romans sacked Corinth and Carthage in the same year, but I’ve never heard before that the Carthaginians sacked Corinth.

  • Rob · July 26, 2010 · 7:41 am

    I thought I checked my facts on this, but I may have misread something that I came across. For I remember now that at the time, I was a bit surprised by this myself (“Oh, really? Wow!”). You are right on the money — of course — on Rome sacking Corinth and Carthage. Let me do some more research, and figure out a way to put a correction on my blog site as a correction, with a little history attached. Oh, heck, I’ll put it on the next podcast. Could you put your doubts of my assertion on the phone-in line? I’ll play it on the next podcast. Just identify yourself, say what the issue is, and correct the record. That would be great!

    Now back to the library to do some research. Thanks for the tip.

  • rwmg · July 26, 2010 · 5:12 pm

    Well, I tried to call your number, but all I got was a recorded message suggesting I call another number. I didn’t have pen and paper to hand, and as one of your further flung listeners (I live in Jakarta), these calls are expensive. Sorry.

  • Rob · July 26, 2010 · 5:24 pm

    I am so sorry. I shall try to clear it up. Just want you to know in compensation you are a welcome guest on the blog site.

  • Michele · October 20, 2010 · 3:57 pm

    Hi Rob! I left you a message about why I wouldn’t want to go back into the past. I’ll give a modern example here to which many people can relate.
    Right after 9/11, a US plane was forced to land because the passengers caused a near riot. They said that a suspicious-looking bearded man was aboard, and they thought he was a terrorist. The truth was, neither the stewards nor the majority of the passengers on this southwestern-based airline were used to seeing Jewish men in full Chasidic dress- and it turned out the terrorist was just a guy from Brooklyn.
    If we live in a culture which, because of television and movies, brings us tons of info on a daily basis on people from other cultures, religions, and modes of dress but there are still Americans who can’t tell a burnoose and caftan from a large hat and a cloth coat, how much would even the average well-educated Roman scholar know about how to deal with ordinary people in Rome, let alone the provinces? Most of my professor friends didn’t even know what music was popular among students, let alone the latest slang – can you imagine an expert on Roman drama being dropped in among street toughs in the Sabura? I don’t think it would go well. Plus, even a church Latinist would have problems reading signs, since words were often run together and there was no set numbering system (‘VII=7′ and MCM = 1900′ was codified by the Church, not by the Romans; rather like the variations of Renaissance spelling, there wasn’t a standard in Rome for a long time), and there were various numeric codes used as a shorthand (’666′ for Nero is just one example from a larger system).
    Oh, and by the way- I hate to tell you this but it’s ‘pluribus’in E Pluribus Unum (PLOO-rih-boos), not ‘publius’. Yeah, I took Latin in high school, and thought of becoming a Classical scholar.
    I just want to say that I love your podcast and I’m a firm believer that we should be teaching Latin in elementary school (it would create a level playing field for all students and give them a grasp of grammar) and Roman history in high school (it would help modern students understand the commonalities that many of us have, regardless of ethnic origin). I’m African-American and one of the best things that ever happened to me was learning about the Greco-Roman world, as well as about other early civilizations. I wish everyone would listen to your podcast, and I’m recommending it to my boyfriend who is also a history buff.

  • Rob · October 20, 2010 · 6:18 pm

    Thanks for your insightful submittal. And by the way…thanks for the correction. I can only say…we learn from each other. GOOD CATCH…and the day is good because I learned something.
    I can only say that I agree with your assessment on the typical American’s cultural understanding. Hopefully it will get better.
    One of the joys of studying and reading about the Greco-Roman world is that once in a while I read something that falls outside my normal interest. I am working on a podcast about Cleopatra, and I discovered the world of the African Pyramids. the African great queen called Candace of the Meroe (sp?) who kicked the ass of Augustus, and the great Nubian pharoah Piye who stood up to the Assyrians. I even learned about Queen Zenobia. Slowly but surely I plod along giving myself a basic African History Education, and wonder if my education in the 60s and 70s was severely limited by the times. But…you know…that’s OK. I have plenty of books to read, and plenty of time to ponder what has been written, and what was not written. Please keep listening, and please feel free to add comments to the blog.

  • JohnAGJ · September 18, 2011 · 11:43 pm

    Another good podcast! I’m interested in the book you talked about by Rebecca East, but it sounded like you played a recording of her reading it? Is that correct? Is there an audiobook for this one? If so, where? Thanks.

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