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In Episode One of Ancient Rome Refocused I promised to conduct interviews with people who are keeping history alive.  Well, I have kept my promise. 

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Mr. Steven Saylor

EPISODE FOUR OF ANCIENT ROME REFOCUSED:  I just conducted an interview with Mr. Steven Saylor the author of the Roma Sub Rosa Historical mystery series starring Gordianus the finder.   Mr. Saylor talks about his latest book, The Triumph of Ceasar and provides the listeners with a stirring discussion on how he sees the ancient people of Rome, their religious views of the world and how it fits into the practice of the Triumph, and writers that influenced his career.    

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Mr. Bryan Doerries

EPISODE FIVE OF ANCIENT ROME REFOCUSED:  If we talk about the Romans we have to talk about Greeks.  I was fortunate to be in the audience for a reading of the play AJAX written by the ancient Greek general and playwrite Sophocles.  It was performed by the New York based THEATER OF WAR headed by  Mr. Bryan Doerries, translator and director.  This play is on tour performing for veterans who are learning that Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) has been around for thousands of  years and plagued the ancient heroes of mythology.

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I’m an idiot. 

OK. 

I admit it. 

I visited the Forum and did not take any photographs.  Anyway, I have to admit I entered the Forum a bit emotional.  I had read about it all my life and now I was walking into the center of the  empire. 

Wow, double wow.  

It was a  bright sunny day, and the tourists were out in force.   I only had a few days in Rome,  where my wife met me there after a business trip I took to Germany.  Why a few days?  Why didn’t we spend two weeks?  Want me to say I’m an idiot again?

In Rome we stayed in the Rose Garden Palace Hotel, just a few blocks from Borghesi Park.  We should have taken the Metro to the Forum, but I looked at the map and decided that we could walk to the forum.  Big mistake.   I am originally from Chicago.  All the streets are in a grid system.  Chicago is great for directions.  Get lost in one part of town, and you could be ten miles North and know what street to take to get you back to your original spot.  But venturing out from that city, I discovered that everything is not in a grid – especially Roma, Italy.  We walked and got lost on side streets that always seemed to angle off in a different direction than we expected.  We stopped at one intersection and (this is the truth…I swear)  there were tourists on every corner consulting their maps and pointing up at street signs.  It was really kind of funny, especially when we found out that we could have easily taken a metro train to get there and would  have dropped us off just across the street.   

Yes, Rome is ultra modern.  But any modern city is a reflection of what has come before.  I am sure that many streets still meander much as they did a thousand years before.    

The ‘great explorer’ (me) was determined to do it on foot.  

this-was-just-a-blockWe wandered through street after street and got lost.  We finally came to one corner, and my wife decided to ask a cafe owner.  I was slightly ahead of her, and as soon as I looked to the right…there was the collossium.  I can’t quite explain the feeling I had.  Basically I was overwhelmed.  At the end of the street I could only see a small portion of it, as much as the two side of the street would allow me to, but I knew instantly what it was.  I turned to tell my wife but she had already asked for directions from an owner of a small cafe, and by the way he stretched out his arm to the sky showed he was slightly irritated by the question for he knew that he was drawfed by the collossium that was just down the street.   In fact you could say it was in his backyard, and he more than likely got asked that question by hundreds of ‘out-of-towners.’ 

His answer except it was in Italian was kind of…”What za matter…can’t you see it?  It’s hanging right over us.”

We walked down the street in its direction, tall apartments on our left and right on a small street barely bigger than the width of a car.  I could hear voices.  Looking up voices from the second and third floors echoed down.  Kids laughing, mothers asking what Dad wanted for dinner, a voice of a workman, pounding of a hammer met our ears…you know…life.    This is what have must have been then as well, in ancient Rome, as you walked through the tenements of that ancient city.  Voices echoing down from the second and third floors.  Kids laughing, Mater asking Pater want he wants for dinner, a voice of a workman, pounding of a hammer…voices coming out from the windows, the doorways…you know…even then life goes on.  

Things change…yet they don’t.

 I went to Rome not to see the modern city, nor the medieval one at that.  I wanted to see something of Ancient Rome, to get a feeling of the past by walking the same ground.  Is this really possible?  Can one really experience the sights and sounds of a city that is now only memory and ruins?

I take that back…its not even in memory. There are no living people to speak of it.  Everyone is dead – long dead.  Everyone associated with it is gone off the face of the Earth.

You might as well say you want to talk to a person who lived in New York in 1880. 

It — just — can’t — be — done.

What we know of Rome is recorded in snippets of stone and paper…pieces of jig-saw puzzle that can only be put together through archeology.   

What is left of Ancient Rome NOW is covered by a modern metropolis that has changed and grown like a living organism.  Everything they attempt to build something new they find something of the past — car parks and underground rails have discovered temple, palaces, and burial sites.  There is a warehouse storing opera costumes that sits on top of a temple to Mithas (the bull god), and a bookstore that if you take the back steps down into a basement, you descend into a city street of a tiled road, walls, doors and windows — all underground — a city underneath a city.

Rome is like a layer cake.

On the surface, you have to imagine what the ancient city looked like.  You have to look thorugh the medieval, renaissance, and 19th, 19th and 20th century influences.  Occasionally if you walk through the city,  spots are uncovered, holes in the ground to show the past.  

Look into a hole and there is a temple.  Cool.

History beneath your feet!

Like the Forum by the way.

I have to be honest with you, the Forum was hard for me.  Today it is like a bombed out building, stripped laid bare, and a skeleton of what every glory it had.  This was the city hub, the central place where Roman Civilization was built around it.  At this spot you have the remants of temples to Castor and Pollux, Saturn, Vesta, Antonius and Faustina and many others.  There is the Rostra where politicians made speeches, the Umbilicus Urbi (the designated center of the republic and center of the empire).  The processional street called the Via Sacra is there, and a sacred pool venerated by the Romans and its reason for veneration forgotton over time.  Frankly, any source of fresh water at that time would have been venerated — don’t you think?

 Frankly looking at the Forum today does not tell you what it looked like in its glory.  It does not tell you what it looked like during the republic or the empire.  Steps are missing, marble facing has long disappeared to be stolen for the buildings of other centuries. 

The Forum is like looking at an old man and trying to imagine him in his youth.  

Am I telling you not to visit?  NO!

Read Ben Hur once in your life and VISIT ROME!

My suggestion is when your there…hire a guide.  Don’t worry about the cost.  It it worth it and I strongly suggest you invest the money.   Did I do it?  No. I wish I did, but I did listen over the shoulder of many guides as they talked to their customers. 

I know…a big cheapskate.

I listened to one guide who stood in front of the Arch of Septimius Severus in celebration of the emperor’s triumph over the Parthians and the Osroeni in 195 CE and 197CE.  “It’s propaganda you know,” he said pointing out the prisoners in chains on the relief.  “It’s to make the people of Rome to feel better, to feel safe and secure.  Kind of like what your George Bush does in showing pictures of prisoners that your army captures.”

I stopped by another guide.  He is an older fellow, if anything a history professor in Rome taking his friends through the Forum.  They stand over a hole in the ground where two graduate students sift through the dirt.  To my understanding the Forum is revealing new finds all the time. 

“You Americans think of history from left to right,” the man said.  “You have lots of space to think in terms of left to right.  We Europeans have no space, no prairie, no plains.  Our history must be up and down — we are older so we must go down to find our history.”

 And you do walk down.  When you walk into the Forum you enter a depression in the ground.  Modern Rome sits above you.  At one time it was covered in debris, in the past this was nothing but a cow pasture.  Every step  you take down the ramp is a step back into time.  Those answers…those additional answers to the past archeologists have to dig deeper.  Remember I said that Rome is a layer cake? 

It is.

I did  make one hypothesis while I was there.  Just one.  I wish I could share with you more than that.  It was something I noticed.  As I stood close to the location to the Temple of the Vestal Virgins I could see the collossium.  In fact it is in walking distance.  It was not that far from the Senate building where the laws were made, and the emperors sat, and I could imagine that when the wind was good, and the conditions right, 50, 000 voices shouting in their blood lust could be heard through the windows.  

I wonder what laws were passed based on that sound.

(Note* Anybody got any stories they like to share?  Either write it in comments or tell me of your travels by email.) 

662px-TheprocessionofthetrojanhorseintroybygiovannidomenicotiepoloI love mysteries.   Some people solve big stuff.  I see tiny stuff and I am drawn in.  Like this painting.  I saw it on the internet, and immediately I focused in on the words written on the side. 

PALADI VOTUM

The painting is by Giandomenico Tiepolo of the late 1700s.   The painting depicts the famous Trojan Horse being pulled into the city of Troy.  The words PALADI VOTUM are carved into the wood.  Look for the words on the ribcage of the horse.

Not a latin speaker (though I do attempt to speak it quite a few times on the podcast) I was curious what it meant and why it was there?  I even wondered if this was a secret message that the painter had placed in the scene.

PALADI VOTUM.

The translation is as follows:

AN OFFERING TO PALLAS ATHENA

This was a lie which led to Troy’s fall.  Inside soldiers waited to hop out and open the gates.  They thought it was an offering to the goddess and not a contraption designed for their fall.  

What’s more it is in Latin, not the language of the ancient Greeks but certainly a language associated with antiquity especially by Italians in the 170os.

What did Laocoon the priest say? 

“Trust not their presents, nor admit the horse.”

Episode 3 – Ancient Rome Refocused

Title – "Stay for the Servile Wars or visit Mother in Sperlonga." A study of Spartacus. Was he a hero or a brigand? Why did Spartacus turn back from the Alps?

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spartacusThe third episode of Ancient Rome Refocused is coming soon. This one is titled: “Stay for the Servile Wars or visit mother in Sperlonga”   We shall study the gladiator Spartacus and the motivations of a decision he made that ‘doomed’ his slave revolt.

I’m sorry that it has taken so long, but a few ‘family matters’ has kept me from the microphone. This weekend…April 10-11th I will do a recording and it should not be long after that it will be posted. I want to thank everyone for the overwhelming interest in the podcast and I want you to know that I am not taking it lightly. A lot of research goes into each podcast, and a lot of soul searching to figure how ’each’ episode should be interpreted for the modern day.  As you know I want to hear your feedback.  If there is something you with to expand on, correct or suggest,  you can leave a comment on the blog site, or go to the Facebook Group site.  

Episode 3 is coming and so is SPARTACUS.   

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